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SM Ent Complains About The Preservation Of Evidence Request
SM Entertainment filed an appeal regarding the preservation of evidence request the three members of TVXQ filed recently.

SME’s side filed for their appeal at the first hearing that began on the 21st at 10:20am.

SME’s side stated, “Some of the receipts and other documentation used to calculate TVXQ’s income are the company’s secret information. Therefore, it could be fatal to SME if these forms of documentation were revealed to the media.”

The Courts explained a ‘In Camera’ system that they use which will invalidate SME’s claims. The ‘In Camera’ system is a system in which only a few select people are able to see the important files or the business’ secrets in an enclosed area.

This appeal makes people question how accurately the Courts will be able to calculate the actual income of TVXQ.



Source: [asiae+DNBN]
Translation: jeeelim5@tohosomnia

Courts Urge For A ‘Mutual Agreement’ For TVXQ Dispute

Popular group TVXQ’s three members asked for a suspension of their exclusive contract against SM Entertainment and the first hearing occurred on the 21st.

Seoul District Court’s Judge Park Byungdae, after listening to both sides, said, “We think the best way to solve this dispute is for the two sides come to a mutual agreement, when we put the responsibility for biggest fan club in the world and the relationship with the other two members into consideration.“

The judge stated, “If both side would like to set a settlement date that will not be open to the public, that can be arranged,” and urged both sides to come to a mutual agreement.

The Courts agreed to both sides’ wishes of ending this dispute early on and will come to a decision after examining all the related materials handed in on September 11th which is 3 weeks after this first hearing.

The lawyer representing the three members said, “They do not want a disbandment of TVXQ,” and “There are cases where teams stay together even if the members are in different agencies.”

Also, when the Courts asked whether they wanted a ‘cancellation of their contract’ or a ‘revision of their contract’, the lawyer replied, “It depends on how competent SM Entertainment will be to support TVXQ’s transition from an idol group to a more mature artist group,” and “The opportunities are endless.”

SM Entertainment’s lawyer said, “Although the three members who filed this lawsuit are not having their right violated, the agency is losing a lot of money due to this trial so we wish for it to end quickly and for TVXQ to start their activities again,” and “The only reason SME asked the three members to not participate in the Chinese cosmetic company branch was because the agency feared that TVXQ’s image might be damaged in some way; the agency had no other intentions.”

The Courts said, “As long as this lawsuit has been filed, please refrain from talking about or attack the other side through the media.”

TVXQ’s three out of five members, Xiah Junsu (Kim Junsu), YoungWoong Jaejoong, (Kim Jaejoong) and Micky Yoochun (Park Yoochun), stated that “Our 13 year exclusive contract can basically be seen as a life contract, and we did not receive proper treatment from SME in many aspects such as income division,” and filed their lawsuit on July 31st.

Source: [yeonhap news+DNBN]
Translations: jeeelim5@tohosomnia


The Members Of TVXQ “Feel Distressed Because Of This Lawsuit”
TVXQ’s YoungWoong Jaejoong, Xiah Junsu and Micky Yoochun have stated they are “upset and distressed because of this trial.”

Sejong, who is representing TVXQ, stated to the media after the first hearing finished at 11:40 am, “The three members are feeling upset and distressed,” and “We hope this lawsuit ends well.”

The two sides of the three members and SM Entertainment stated their views on the 21st at 10:20 am, when the hearing began.

The three members’ side asked for the suspension of their exclusive contract and said there were problems when it came to their income division.

SM Entertainment’s side stated that they had already fixed the contract five times and that there were no problems with the income division.

The hearing ended after only an hour and 20 minutes.

Source: [asiae+DNBN]
Translations: jeeelim5@tohosomnia

Lee Min-Woo Talks About TVXQ In An Interview

Lee Min-Woo said, “(TVXQ) are excellent juniors that I recognise. A few months ago, they even had a chat with me about problems in life… I could tell that the members have very deep feelings for the group. At the back stage, they would hold each others’ hands and pray, say good luck; the way they cheer each other on is very similar to us. (T/N: He meant Shinhwa) Because they are a group which has very good team spirit, I believe in TVXQ.”

“My dear younger brothers, TVXQ does not just belong to TVXQ. Don’t think too much and over-complicate things, just keep thinking about your fans who have spent precious times with you and who have always protected you.

I hope that all of you can steadfastly protect the proud name of TVXQ. You definitely can’t disband, Hyung (T/N: Older brother) is counting on you.
After the current issue is resolved, the 11 of us should go out and have fun.”

Source: [OHMICKY]
Translations: mandasoh@tohosomnia

Simdilik ilk dördünü çevirdim.

SM Ent. Delil Istek Korunmasindan Sikayetçi
SM Ent.,TVXQ’nun son zamanlarda dosyalayip sundugu delil isteginin korunmasini düsünerek bir temyiz dosyasi hazirladi.
SME tarafi söyle beyan etti: “TVXQ’nun gelirini belirten bazi makbuz ve buna benzer diger dökümanlar sirketimizin gizli bilgileridir.Bu nedenle,bu tarz belgelerin medyaya verilmesi SME için tehlikelidir.”
Mahkeme ise,SME’nin iddialarini geçersiz kilacak olan gizli oturum karari verdi.Gizli oturumda(kapali durusmada) bulunulan yerde sadece seçilen birkaç kisinin önemli belgeleri ya da is sirlarini görmesine izin verilen bir sistemdir.
Bu temyiz durusmasi,insanlarin akillarinda Mahkemelerin dogru bir sekilde TVXQ’nun gerçek gelirini hesaplayip hesaplamayacagi sorusunu dogurmakta.

Mahkemeler TVXQ Anlasmazligini “Karsilikli Anlasma” ile Sonuçlandirmak Istiyor
Populer müzik grubu TVXQ’nun üç üyesi,SME’nin tekelci sözlesmesinin geçiciligini istedi ve bu ilk olarak ayin 21’inde ortaya çiktigi duyuldu.
Seul Bölge Mahkemesi yargici Park Byung-dae,iki tarafi da dinledikten sonra sunlari söyledi: “Sorumlulugu dünyadaki en büyük fan klüp olan TVXQ fanin üzerine yükleyip ve diger iki üyeninde konuyla ilgilidüsüncesini ele alarak,her iki taraf içinde iyi olacak,karsilikli anlasmayi saglayacak en iyi yolu bulmayi amaçliyoruz.”
Yargiç ayrica sunlari belirtti: “ Taraflar halka açik olmayan bir oturum talebinde bulunurlarsa,bu da saglanacaktir.” Ve iki tarafida karsilikli anlasmaya davet etti.
Mahkeme,iki tarafinda en kisa zamanda bu anlasmazligi sonlandirma(bir sonuca baglama) arzularini destekliyor ve bu olayin duyulmasindan 3 hafta sonrasi;yaklasik Eylül’ün 11’inden bu yana elde edilen tüm belgeleri inceleyip bir karara varmak istiyor.
Üç üyeyi temsil eden avukat sunlari söyledi: “Onlar TVXQ’nun dagilmasini istemiyorlar.” Ve “Üyeler farkli sirketlerde olsalarda grubun beraber oldugu durumlarda var.”
Mhakeme,üyelerin sirketle olan sözlesmesini tamamen iptla etmeyi mi yoksa yeniden gözden geçirip düzenlemeyi mi isteyip istemedigini sordugunda ise avukat söyle cevap verdi: “Bu,SME’nin TVXQ’yu idol bir gruptan daha olgun sanatçilar grubuna geçmesinde destekleme konusunda ne denli ehil olacagina bagli.Imkanlar sinirsizdir.”
SME’nin avukati ise sunlari söyledi: “Dava açan bu üç üyenin haklari çignenmemesine ragmen,sirket bu dava yüzünden oldukça maddi kayba ugradi.Bu nedenle,bu olayin hemen sonuçlanmasini ve TVXQ’nun çalismalarina tekrardan baslamasini arzuluyoruz.Tek neden(sorun) SME’nin,TVXQ’den Çin kozmetik sirketi kokteyline katilmasini istemesiydi.Çünkü SME TVXQ’nun imajinin bir sekilde zedelenmesinden korkuyordu;baska bir niyeti yoktu.”
Mahkeme söyle dedi: “ Dava basladigi andan itibaren,lütfen karsi tarafla medya huzurunda konusmaktan ya da onlara saldirmaktan geri durun.”
TVQX’nun bes üyesinden üçü olan XIAH,HERO ve MICKY sunlari belirtti: “Bizim 13 yillik tekelcilige dayanan sözlesmemiz bir hayat sözlesmesi olarak görülebilir.SME’den gelir konusu gibi bir çok konu hakkinda herhangi tam bir davranis,hareket görmedik.” Ve Haziran’in 31’inde davalarini açtilar.

TVXQ Üyeleri Bu Dava Yüzünden Sikintililar
TVXQ üyelerinden HERO,XIAH ve MICKY bu durusma yüzünden üzgün ve sikintili olduklarini belrttiler.
TVXQ’yu savunan Sejong,11:40’ta ilk durusma bittigi zaman sunlari belirtti: “ Üç üyede üzgün ve sikintili. Hepimiz bu davanin iyi sonuçlanmasini umut ediyoruz.”
Iki tarafta durusma basladigi zaman,ayin 21’in de,saar 10:20’de görüslerini belirttiler.
TVXQ tarafi tekelci sözlesmelerinin geçiciligini istediler ve konu gelire gelince ortada bazi problemler oldugunu söylediler.
Durusma baslamasindan 1 saat 20 dakika sonra sona erdi.

Lee Min-woo Bir Röpörtajda TVXQ Hakkinda Konustu
Lee Min-woo sunlari söyledi: “ Kabul ediyorum,TVXQ gerçekten çok parlak gençler.Hatta bir kaç ay önce,benimle hayat problemleri hakkinda konustular….Üyelerin grup hakkinda çok derin düsünceleri(duygulari) oldugunu söyleyebilirim.Sahne arkasinda birbirlerinin ellerini tutup dua ediyorlar ve sans diliyorlar.Onlarin birbirlerini desteklem,neselendirme yollari bize çok benziyor.(Burda “biz” ile Shinwa’yi kastetmis.)Çünkü onlar çok mükemmel bir takim ruhuna sahip bir grup,TVXQ’ya inaniyorum.”
“Sevgili kardeslerim,TVXQ yalnizca TVXQ’ya ait degil.Çok fazla düsünmeyin ve karmasikliklarin üstesinden gelin.Sadece,sizinle hos vakit geçiren ve her zaman sizi destekleyen fanlarinizi düsünün.
Umarim TVXQ isminin onurunu aynen koruyabilirsiniz.Siz kesinlikle ayrilamazsiniz.Abiniz size güveniyor.
Su son meselede çözüme kavustuktan sonra,11’imiz disari çikip eglenelim.”

[^^my_hero^^]

Çeviriler için çok ama çok tesekkür ederim Seher'cim.Umarim hersey en yakin zamanda bir çözüme kavusur daha fazla yipranmasinlar artik Ayrica Shinwa gurubundan Lee Min-Woo çok güzel seyler söylemis ve çok iyi destek olmus insallah hersey hallolurda onunda dedigi gibi 11'i disari çikip eglenirler

[chae-kyung]

Çeviri için çok tesekkürler.
Umarim dava DBSK'miz ve bizler için iyi biter.

[chaekyung-chae]

Çeviri için tesekkürler.Umarim bu üzücü durum daha fazla sürmez ve hersey güzel olur.

[Cassiopeia]

Çeviriler için çok tesekkür ederim Seher cigim
Haberlerin devami geliyor


TVXQ’s 3 Members Side, “Without Revealing The Entire Contract, It Will Be Hard To Reach An Agreement”
TVXQ’s three members’ legal representative stated that, “Without revealing the entire contract as well as all the income TVXQ has earned, it will be hard to reach a mutual agreement.”

Judge Park Byungdae of Seoul District Courts was in charge of the first hearing between SM Entertainment and the three members of TVXQ. On that day, he revealed that he wished for the two sides to come to a mutual agreement for sake of the world’s biggest fanclub and the other two members.

In accordance to this, Sejong, who is representing the three members of TVXQ, stated, “Unless SM Entertainment reveals the entire contract as well as TVXQ’s income, it will be hard to reach an agreement.”

Also, Sejong said, “Xiah Junsu states that SME’s claim that he took 45 million Won in advanced payment is completely false.”

Source: [ohmynews+DNBN]
Translations: jeeelim5@tohosomnia

TVXQ’s 3 Members “Cosmetic Business Is The Most Common Venture For Celebrities”
TVXQ’s three members, who are currently in a dispute with SM Entertainment (SME) over the period of their exclusive contract and the income division, have stated that the cosmetic company is not the focus of this trial.

The first hearing of the lawsuit between the three members of TVXQ, YoungWoong Jaejoong, Micky Yoochun and Xiah Junsu, and their agency SM Entertainment began at 10:20 am on the 21st.

At this hearing, the three members’ lawyer explained their unlawful exclusive contract in reference to the contract period and the unfair income division. But the lawyer did not talk of the cosmetic company that SME stated was the real reason behind this lawsuit.

When the judge asked the lawyer why he did not refer to the cosmetic company, the three members’ lawyer stated, “The cosmetic company is not a big deal and entering the cosmetic business is the most common venture among celebrities,” and “We did not feel that money was the problem in this lawsuit so we did not talk about it on its own.”

He also said, “The trust the three members had with SME was destroyed because of reasons such as the extremely long period of their exclusive contract and the questionable income division that SME has stated. It has become hard for both sides to have a good celebrity-agency relationship,” and “We hope this lawsuit will become a chance for TVXQ to have a free contract in which they are allowed to pursue any free and creative activities that they wish to partake in.”

Source: [star news+DNBN]
Translations: jeeelim5@tohosomnia

Xiah Junsu’s 45 Million Won Advanced Payment Rumor…”Completely False”
TVXQ’s Xiah Junsu, who is currently in a dispute with his agency said through Sejong that the news report stating he “Received payment of 45 million Won in advance from SM Entertainment a month before the lawsuit” is “completely false.”"

SME’s lawyer said at the first hearing today regarding the suspension of the exclusive contract request that, “Xiah Junsu (Kim Junsu)received 45 million Won in advanced payment on July 15th,” and “Seeing as this was done one month before the trial, it is hard to see it as an action that has nothing to do with the lawsuit.” Sejong’s side cuttingly replied to a reporter on the phone that, “That did not happen.”

He said, “If that did happen, it was probably to settle his account for his income taxes,” and “They are being ridiculous by making it seem like Xiah Junsu received that payment to prepare for this trial,” and could not control his anger at the rumor.

He also said, “Ever since they debuted in 2004, SME has been in charge of all tax payments such as the composite income tax regarding TVXQ’s income,” and “The composite income tax is settled depeding on how much the group earns for the first half of each year and was given to the members to pay in the form of advanced payments.Xiah Junsu received this money from SME to deal with a problem in his income tax account.“

He also added, “If they reveal that the other members received advanced payment during the same time then this rumor can be taken care of,” and “Xiah Junsu has never taken advanced payment to pay for personal or legal reasons.”

SM Entertainment’s lawyer stated during the first hearing on the 21st that, “Kim Junsu received an advanced payment of 45 million Won.”

T/N: *I know this might be confusing so let me make it clear for you
SME: Kim Junsu took an advanced payment of 45 million Won to pay for his legal actions
TVXQ: Kim Junsu has been given money from SME in the form of an advanced payment ever since the group debuted in 2004 to pay his taxes. SME has taken this and twisted this.*

Source: [ohmynews+DNBN]
Translations: jeeelim5@tohosomnia

SM Ent, “We’ve Lost 15 Billion Won+ In Image Damage Because Of This Trial”
SM Entertainment (SME) stated that they were the only ones who received damages because of the request for the suspension of TVXQ’s exclusive contract.

On the 21st at 10:20 am, the first hearing for the lawsuit between SM Entertainment and the three members of TVXQ’s Youngwoong Jaejoon, Micky Yoochun and Xiah Junsu, began.

During this hearing, SME’s lawyer stated, “In the case of the three members of TVXQ, they don’t have any dissatisfied feelings towards this lawsuit as it got them out of concerts and advertisements that they did not want to participate in,” and “But in the case of SME, they had to pay compensation for said canceled events and future scheduled events with 8 billion Won to pay domestically and 15 billion Won to pay if overseas activities are calculated. Not only will SME suffer monetary loss, the image of SME has also been hit because of this trial.”

SME’s lawyer stated that the focus of this lawsuit was not the period of the exclusive contract or the unfair income division, but the cosmetic company that the three members were involved with. He explained that the only two reasons SME asked the three members not to participate in such a venture were because such a venture went against their exclusive contract and because the venture could hit TVXQ’s image in a negative way.

SME’s lawyer also said, “In reference to the length of their exclusive contract, the special quality of the entertainment business needs to be considered,” and “Even in the recommended exclusive contract guidelines released recently, there are exceptions when it comes to singers.”

He also said, “The three members claim that they never were told of exactly how much they earned but SME revealed this amount to the members every six months and the members even signed these income documents.”

On a side note, the three members of TVXQ filed for an Exclusive Contract Validity Suspension and Provisional Disposition Request against their agency SM Entertainment on July 31st. They also filed for a Preservation of Evidence request to be able to calculate the exact amount of TVXQ’s income.

The three members asked for a cancellation of their contract due to the unlawful clauses in said contract but SM Entertainment stated that the three members were filing this lawsuit because of the cosmetic company they were associated with; both sides show no signs of backing down. TVXQ’s leader U-Know Yunho and youngest leader Choikang Changmin did not participate in this lawsuit.

Source: [star news+DNBN]
Translations: jeeelim5@tohosomnia

[Cheko]

[TRANS] 090821 3 Members Of TVXQ, "We Don't Want To Disband Even If We Move Agencies"

3 DBSK Üyesi: “Ajans degistirsek bile biz dagilmak ISTEMIYORUZ”

The first hearing for the lawsuit TVXQ's YoungWoong Jaejoong, Micky Yoochun, and Xiah Junsu filed against SM began on the 21st at 10:20 am.

TVXQ Üyeleri YoungWoong JaeJoong, Micky Yoochun ve Xiah Junsu´nun SM e karsi olan davalarinin ilk durusmasi bugün Agustos´un 21, Saat 10:20de gerceklesmistir.

The three members' lawyer said, "If you look at Shinhwa, although each member is in a different agency, they still perform as one group and the three members, even if they move agencies, do not wish to disband."

Grubun 3 Üyesinin Avukati sunlari söyledi: Shinhwa Grubuna bakarsaniz, 3 üyesi baska Ajanslarla calistigi halde Shinhwa hala bir Grup olarak biliniyor, ve diger 3Üye Ajans degistirdigi halde dagilmak istemiyorlar.

Both sides agreed that they did not want a disbandment to occur.

Iki taraf da ayrilmak istemediklerini acikladilar.

Kaynak : dbsknights
Haber kisaltilmistir. Sadece önemli oldugunu düsündügüm yerleri cevirdim

[sky_max]

insallah ayrilmazlar ya ayrildiklarini dsünemiyorum bu bir kabus olur

[diana_18]

Ay yazik ya benim kankam DBSK'nin hayrani
Simdi çok üzülecek(

[eun_min]

yha bu ayrilma dogru degildir insallah çünkü bana göre onlar kardes gibi neden biraksinlar ki

[EbRuCuK]

inSallah ayriLmazlar çok üzülürüz ya. .